Bill Maher showing his usual reverence toward religion and the Catholic church in particular. Good stuff.
Saturday, April 12, 2008
New Rules from Bill Maher
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Very nice with the Bears and Stearns of pedophilia".
And of all the places I might ever consider to shave my balls, the airplane bathroom is nowhere near the top of the list.
He is a pathetic, stupid, ball-less, little man with a bad hair weave. I guess we are supposed to believe that there is some kind of moral equivalency between the Catholic church and the Texas cult. It is a totally fallacious argument. The cult in question openly sanctions polygamy (and other things), the Catholic church does not endorse polygamy or sex with minors.
The Catholic church is far from perfect, but every large system has its flaws. Bill took a cheap shot against the Catholic church for 2 reasons: because he could (white Christians are fair game in our culture), and to garner ratings. His remarks had no balance --- its quite obvious that he is a left wing hack.
Another thing which amazes me about the left ---- they are champions of human rights only when it serves their agenda. Where was the concern for human rights in Iraq when Saddam was brutalizing the Iraqi people? I didn't hear one peep! In fact Sean Penn told us that Saddam was a cool dude. Why is it that the crackdown on the press by Hugo Chavez is alright with Hollywood?
He is a pathetic, stupid, ball-less, little man with a bad hair weave
Ah, I see this is going to be a rational and intelligent response already.
The Catholic church is far from perfect, but every large system has its flaws
When I think flaw, I'm thinking perhaps an accounting glitch, perhaps some organizational errors, but fostering an atmosphere for pedophiles, shielding them from criminal prosecution as well as actively hiding and silencing information about such acts is quite a "flaw".
Another thing which amazes me about the left...
So being opposed to pedophilia and criminal acts associated with it is left? I'd say it's right, as in morally, ethically and legally right.
Where was the concern for human rights in Iraq when Saddam was brutalizing the Iraqi people?
Likewise, where was that concern before we invaded? You know, back when we were invading because of the threat of WMDs and possibly aiding Al Quaeda? It came out afterwards once those things turned out to be bullshit in order to justify invasion and subsequent occupation. Hmmm, sounds like an agenda serving rationale, no? Furthermore, where's that so-called "conservative compassion" when it comes to the plight of North Koreans? How about in Darfur? How about anyplace that isn't militarily not a pushover and not containing something valuable like oil? Hmmm? Don't talk to me about serving an agenda, numbnuts.
I think that all the cheese-steaks are clouding your judgment. My point was that all large organizations make mistakes ---- can you think of one that hasn't? The Catholic church does not endorse the aberrant behavior exhibited by some of its clergy, and it is actively trying to improve its screening / management procedures. Bill's 'reporting' was a smear job. He made no effort to show any positive contributions made by the church, and he omitted any reference to how the church is changing to prevent abuses.
'So being opposed to pedophilia and criminal acts associated with it is left? I'd say it's right, as in morally, ethically and legally right.'
All Americans should be apposed to pedophilla --- I never suggested otherwise.
The 'invasion' of Iraq had many reasons.
1. Failure to comply with 16 UN resolutions.
2. Firing on US servicemen patrolling the no-fly zones - a violation of the terms of the Gulf 1 agreements.
3. Failure to allow weapons inspectors full access to sites / records.
4. Failure to account for WMD stockpiles.
WMD was one of many reasons. Do you think that there were no WMD? What do think was on all the trucks that made it into Syria? His CD collection?
I am all for taking down EVERY member of the axis of evil ---- including North Korea !!! We tried paying them off under Clinton and all we got for the $$ was an underground test. Iran is actively seeking a nuke ---- and Iran's president has stated in no uncertain terms that he wants to destroy Israel ---- should we wait --- like we did in WW2?
Well, you've gone off the reservation now!
The cult in question openly sanctions polygamy (and other things), the Catholic church does not endorse polygamy or sex with minors.
Does not endorse?? Did you really say that?!
Trying to cover-up, silence, and otherwise shield from scrutiny the molestation of thousands of children sounds like a wholehearted endorsement to me. It was tolerated systemically this makes the church complicit.
I guess we are supposed to believe that there is some kind of moral equivalency between the Catholic church and the Texas cult.
Well, yes. I think that when your "morality" is based entirely on BULLSHIT. Then using the Identity Principle borrowed from mathematics, BULLSHIT = BULLSHIT. So, yeah I think they are equivalent in their morality.
How is one very different from each other? Both are established to subjugate its sheep for the enrichment of its leaders. When you want to compare fanatical cults, NONE holds a candle to the Catholic Church in terms of lives destroyed!
Might I remind you they are ACTIVELY trying to eradicate condom usage on the continent of Africa despite the pandemic status of HIV! Surely, that pales in comparison to the abuses of the cult. ;)
His remarks had no balance --- its quite obvious that he is a left wing hack.
He doesn't have to be balanced he's not a journalist. (More than I can say for the FOX news reporters)
You don't have to like Bill Maher or his opinions, but calling him ball-less is unfair. He has been equally critical of Muslims ( a markedly "unsafe" target) and if you remember he was one of the few voices critical of the administration while the majority of the nation was in the throes of patriotic ecstasy.
Besides, I don't see how this is a right wing v. left wing issue. I challenge you to watch the video clip again and pick out one issue that is "left-wing".
To attack Maher on what his political philosophy is [in the context of this clip and what he says in it] is nothing more than an ad hominem attack.
You're better than that! ;)
Are you suffering from another headache?
My point was that all large organizations make mistakes ---- can you think of one that hasn't?
If that's honestly your point and you honestly see the thousands of victims of pedophilia by the catholic church and it's policy (yes POLICY) of hiding that, protecting the guilty and fighting prosecution and threatening the victims as mere "mistakes" or "flaws" inevitable of a large organization, well, I hope you never found or run a large organization. Damn!
I also see of all your supposed reasons for invading Iraq you didn't list Sadam's treatment of his people. Interesting.
and Iran's president has stated in no uncertain terms that he wants to destroy Israel ---- should we wait --- like we did in WW2?
1. Prove imminent threat of annihilation of Israel by Iran
2. Explain why we should defend Israel against Iran
3. Is Israel special, or is it the US's role to defend every nation that's invaded by another?
4. What does all of this have to do with WW2?
Vince-
There have been warped US military servicemen, US senators, doctors, scientists, teachers!!!!!, postmen, etc. It would be foolish to judge them all on the basis of a few bad actors. Additionally, it is a non sequitur to assert that because the parent organization(s) tried to 'cover up' aberrant behavior (mitigate their damage - not honorable to be sure) they necessarily endorsed the criminal actions.
Think of all the cops, congressmen, nurses, and doctors that were simply 'let go' to avoid negative publicity. Does that mean that those institutions endorsed the evil acts?
This is not just the actions of a 'few bad apples'.
The Holy See did endorse the crimes by doing NOTHING TO STOP IT when they were fully aware of this abuse...that is until it became a huge PR fiasco.
-not to mention the numerous other crimes against humanity that the Catholics are responsible for.
Oh yeah, I can judge the organization as evil.
1. Prove imminent threat of annihilation of Israel by Iran
2. Explain why we should defend Israel against Iran
3. Is Israel special, or is it the US's role to defend every nation that's invaded by another?
4. What does all of this have to do with WW2?
1. The statements by the Iranian president are my 'proof'.
2. Israel is a fellow democratic state -- we are allies ---
3. The US should defend any democracy that is challenged by rogue states.
4. WW2 --- the left said 'its Europe's war - lets stay out', AND 'Hitler just needs a little breathing room, he will not go too far' --- 'Peace in our time'. Iran has stated its intention to act ---- should we wait for the mushroom cloud?
'The Holy See did endorse the crimes'
Dude, thats blasphemy!! Wait a minute -- I guess its ok --- I forgot that this was the non-credo blog ;)
I am not a fan of organized religion --- esp. the Catholic church, but I really don't believe that they (the majority of the clergy) wanted those evil deeds to happen. The leadership covered their collective asses ---- that was wrong ---- very wrong --- I just can't make the leap to 'endorse'.
So by your logic, if Iran or North Korea read Bush's statements as proof that the US was an imminent threat, they'd be justified in attacking?
What if one democratic nation invaded another?
What if one ally invaded another?
What if one just threatened to do so like you say Iran has done?
What would the US responses be in those situations?
What is a "rogue state"?
As for WW2, it was the conservatives who said it's Europe's war and let's stay out. They objected to WWI and they objected to WWII until Pearl harbor. Wilson - Democrat, one of those intellectual kind. He sought the formation of the League of Nations afterwards. FDR - Democrat, an elitist NE type with radical liberal social plans. Remember, he pushed for increased US involvement? No, I don't think you do, do you? I don't know what kind of history you think you know, especially since you're mixing in words from Chamberlain (psst - he was British).
As far as the whole condom issue goes --- in the church's defense ---- they did tell them to abstain :) -----
The church just doesn't know the negroidus de silica the way we do :)
For anyone who thinks that we should be more like France ---- Look at their 'free speech'
Well that has absolutely nothing to do with either the subject of this post or any of the comments here, but thanks for bringing that news to my attention.
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http://pophangover.com/startingnow
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